Why Working With Your Local Activists Matters

by: michael in chicago

Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 09:51:12 AM CST


A few days ago I wrote about the news from OTDB that PC recruitment in DuPage was up over 100% from 2006. Mark followed up with GOP numbers noting that although Democratic numbers increased and GOP numbers flat lined, Democratic PCs were still being outnumbered by nearly 2:1.

Now there are many rhetorically good explanations for this. Most notably the strong Republican organization that has been in place for decades in DuPage is a major factor. But the flip side of this picture is also important. The past leadership of the DuPage Democrats and their public disdain (like this or this) for local activists while filling only 16% of PCs is just as strong a reason for this disparity in the trenches.

Hence it was good for me as a Democrat living in the Sixth to see more of an emphasis this cycle placed on recruiting those on the front lines - Precinct Committeemen. Whether activists forced the DuPage Democratic Party into action out of fear of being voted out of leadership or whether they acted out of necessity to challenge Republicans at all levels is wide open to debate, and both the "insiders" and "outsiders" have strong opinions on the reality of this.

Regardless of who's right, one thing is clear: working with your local activists matters. Duckworth didn't attempt to do this until it was too late. Whether Morgenthaler will is still questionable. But as displayed by Gary at OTDB, when crunching PC recruitment numbers, it was pretty clear that when Township organizations worked actively with OTDB, recruitment was up significantly over Townships in which there was no such cooperation.

Details after the jump...

michael in chicago :: Why Working With Your Local Activists Matters
First a breakdown of the data:

Townships that worked with OTDB:

TownshipPCs on 2006 BallotPCs on 2008 BallotImprovement
Addison920+11
Milton2949+20
York2335+12
Naperville625+19
Lisle522+17
Total72151+79 (108%)

Townships in which there wasn't any significant cooperation with OTDB:

TownshipPCs on 2006 BallotPCs on 2008 BallotImprovement
Wayne34+1
Bloomingdale1026+16
Winfield913+4
Downers Grove2643+17
Total4886+38 (79%)

Which would you rather have on the ballot? 79 or 38? I'll have the 108% increase platter with a side of Democratic activism please. It's clear from these numbers that cooperation beats the alternative.

Note to local Democratic Leadership everywhere: If you want to win in places like IL-06 you're going to have to work with your local activists. This means you are going to have to listen to the people on the ground who keep saying repeatedly that we are not going to beat Republicans - especially local ones like Roskam - by being Republican-lite. Most importantly of all, stop trying to be the king of the damn ant hill and see the big picture: winning elections.

We work together, we win. If we don't work together then it doesn't really matter who is king of the ant hill.

UPDATE: Numbers corrected per Gary's comment regarding his error. Yet I find this part is important:

First of all, O:TDB is certainly not claiming to have recruited all 79 of the new PCs in the cooperating townships. For example, of the eleven recruits in Addison township, four were already-appointed PCs, six were found by O:TDB, and one was found by someone else. Secondly, even in the townships that did not work cooperatively with us, we did do some recruiting -- we came up with thirteen PCs in Bloomingdale township and five PCs in Downers Grove township.

Of the 38 PCs recruited in townships where there was little cooperation, 18 (47%) were OTDB recruits. Bottom line: the point of this post still stands. It's better to work with your local activists than to close the process to them to protect the ant hill.

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geez,,, (0.00 / 0)
i wish i'd said that (We work together, we win).

congrats to otdb... 

"We have a lot of kids on the ground acting like adults and we have a lot of adults in this room acting like kids," President Obama told his advisors about all the infighting


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you threw that in quick, but its a big point.

if we want people to do the field work and be precinct committeemen, the key to winning as bored points out, weve gotta give them reasons to do so.  honest progressive advocates promote the movement instead of themselves, moving us forward and providing enough inspiration to get the work of winning elections done as well.

William J Maggos


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As I was first writing this I went off topic for a few paragraphs on exactly the point you are making here. If you want your base fired up and active, you have to give them candidates that fire them up and encourage them to act.

Saying "we just want to win" in support of a continued stream of GOP-lite candidates is self serving. Yes, we realize "you" want to win. But for whom? Too often it is winning for the sake of solidifying one's power base, not to win for the sake of pushing Democratic values. Listen to your base. Believe it or not, we know the district too. IL-06 is not made up entirely of Wheaton.

The GOP pushes the values of its base. The Democrats seem more content to try to peel off moderate Republicans rather than grow their base. This is a subtle distinction that I always sum up as the difference between playing to win and playing not to lose.

Right now, we are playing not to lose. We are playing for control of the ant hill. At best this is a short term strategy. At worst, it allows the GOP to stay in the game just long enough that if they get a break they pull out a win when they should have been trounced.


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ive begun to think about the spectrum somewhat differently (0.00 / 0)
and its about how we address candidates to take away the left-right spectrum.

if we can all generally agree about what is progressive and what the Democratic party is supposed to be about (using democratic government to promote the common good of all), then we simply ask candidates to have an honest discussion with us about why their positions are the best way to move forward. it isnt really about being the most progressive in some arbitrary measurement, its about how best to act on that core value.  when you break it down to that reality, i think its much harder to dodge or equivocate as it becomes pretty easy to tear apart the usual excuses about "winning".

people will respond and support candidates who demonstrate real leadership on that simple idea that is a core American value.

William J Maggos


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Please fix up hyperlink (0.00 / 0)
The this hyperlink has an extraneous " at the end.

Excellent diary, Michael.

Morgenthaler still questionable as her positions go undefined or ill-defined and the primary clock continues to tick down.  If she want to stir up the 6th district Democrats on her behalf she needs to get out there and make it clear if she is not merely a moderate Republican.


Fixed (0.00 / 0)
Actually, it was missing the opening quote for the source link. Oops.

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Suggestion - Meta (4.00 / 1)
Something to make your already good diary better. Don't make newbies work so hard. Write out what OTDB and PC stand for the first time you mention them in an article.

Basic style (0.00 / 0)
That's a good point. That is basic editorial style that I seem to have forgotten.

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Correction (0.00 / 0)
Kim Savage rightly pointed out that I got some of the numbers wrong. See the original post which is now corrected.

Basically, I was lazy and used numbers I got from Bob Peickert, rather than the ones in my previous post that I had gotten by actually looking at the election committers' filing reports. But unbeknownst to me, Bob's numbers for the non-cooperating townships didn't include the PCs which were recruited for those townships by O:TDB working independently.

So the difference isn't as striking as at first thought -- but it was O:TDB recruitment that was responsible for the, er, difference in the difference.

"In order for somebody to win an important, major fight 100 years hence, a lot of other people have got to be willing -- for the sheer fun and joy of it -- to go right ahead and fight, knowing you're going to lose." -- I.F. Stone


Corrected (0.00 / 0)
Note the update. I'm only as good as my source material.

BTW, to get rid of the extra space above your tables, delete the unnecesary end-breaks throughout the table.


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Thanks for the tip. (0.00 / 0)
I'm used to doing "raw" HTML where I'd put breaks in the source there just to keep it human-readable. Forgot that Blogger adds extra line breaks in the page anytime the user input inputs one in the source.

"In order for somebody to win an important, major fight 100 years hence, a lot of other people have got to be willing -- for the sheer fun and joy of it -- to go right ahead and fight, knowing you're going to lose." -- I.F. Stone

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To clarify... (0.00 / 0)
...Bob's numbers were accurate, it's just that they weren't indicative of what I was trying to use them for. He was considering non-O:TDB recruitments in those townships only. So his data were the right answer but to a different question.

So I hope we aren't going to see people try to make a big issue over this claiming that O:TDB deliberately inflates its numbers. The data weren't wrong, my usage of them was, and I corrected it as soon as I'd found out.

"In order for somebody to win an important, major fight 100 years hence, a lot of other people have got to be willing -- for the sheer fun and joy of it -- to go right ahead and fight, knowing you're going to lose." -- I.F. Stone


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Bob got those numbers from Jon Myers (0.00 / 0)
I believe that Bob got those numbers from n email that Jon Myers (political director for the DuPage Dems) sent out. They are identical and they showed up on OTDB's site after the email was sent.

Nothing wrong with that, but it's not like he spent a bunch of time crunching numbers.


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Yes, but... (0.00 / 0)
...I think Bob was doing it to make a point about the press release -- that it was written to make it sound as though the county party had recruited all of those people, whereas in reality O:TDB had recruited a good many of them, as had the Democratic township organizations.

"In order for somebody to win an important, major fight 100 years hence, a lot of other people have got to be willing -- for the sheer fun and joy of it -- to go right ahead and fight, knowing you're going to lose." -- I.F. Stone

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