Local Politics? - At an IVI-IPO Endorsement Session.

by: wegerje

Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 12:52:59 PM CST


The only comment I got on my last post was a request for more local politics. Of course, seeing as how this commenter had also complained a while back that one of my pieces was too Chicago-centric, I guess I'm taking my chances here.

I got a call yesterday, actually a message about a call my wife took, urging me to attend my local IVI-IPO endorsement session and support his endorsement. I have just just returned from that session.  Now usually the only reason one gets a call from a candidate is because they are a good progressive and they are afraid of losing to the machine or some other serious threat. Since this was a local session I figured I must know him. The name was vaguely familiar, was it someone in Northside Democracy for America.

wegerje :: Local Politics? - At an IVI-IPO Endorsement Session.

The session was a Saturday morning one and that's when I'd planned a long overdue long exercise walk. But since my wife made a point of asking if I was going, rather than telling me that there was a reason that I couldn't go, I gave it some serious consideration. Indeed I could do both. I could leave at 9:30 am, walk to the session, two miles from my house, listen and vote, and walk back and be home by noon.

The walk was brisk. Finally we are having the season's first hard freeze. December is a bit late but still within a possible old normal pre-climate change pattern. My neighbor just got a new sidewalk put in and he was complaining about the poor quality of the work. Well I would have to tell him about the sidewalk stamped 1938 WPA. There's a program we could use now.

I arrived a bit early and walked into a room waiting for a Republican to speak. Even before I had arrived I had come to the conclusion that the candidate that had caused me to come was not someone from NDFA, leastwise not someone I knew. Now my hope was that someone (like Sandra Verthein) from NDFA would be there so I could vote like they would vote. It is the pretty established way that we all decide any way. If we haven't done the homework we look to those we trust. I have always wanted to build an organization structured around that reality. But that's another story.

In reading the rules for the session I was impressed by how IVI-IPO had actually taken some of the suggestions for process change that a bunch of us had brain-stormed a while back in August about possible endorsement process changes. A process change that I had felt was very important was one that I had noticed a problem around during the endorsement of the U.S. Rep race to replace Rahm Emanuel in IL-05. There were several possible progressive candidates to choose from. I was very curious as to what kind of support each would get from IVI-IPO but the rules for endorsement are essentially Robert's Rules of Order. The process opens the floor for a motion to endorse someone and if that motion passes then that's it. You can't tell who would have come in second when more than two are possible.

Well at this session there was an option to call for a straw poll before the motions to endorse were allowed. Very good work listening, IVI-IPO.

But there was also a rule that allowed a secret ballot if five people asked for it. Damn, I thought, how will I know how to vote if that happens?

We were handed copies of the endorsement questionnaire that each candidate had answered. I looked over one. It was long and I was impatient so after several questions that seemed fine I moved on to the other. Right away I remembered my thoughts on this part of the endorsement process. Most likely both candidates had answered at least the yes/no questions the same.  Except for a few, of course. What were those few? During the IL-05 race I had actually done the work of creating an automated process to compare questionnaires. It's still a bit of work, but much simpler. Luckily I remembered to suggest to IVI-IPO's staff person that they should make a point of creating these difference summaries for us voters. I even told him I'd do the work, just send them to me as needed for well attended sessions.

The candidates came in to speak, one after the other and without hearing each others performance. Sure enough it was as I'd thought. The first candidate was the incumbent who had won a contested race last time under circumstances that were engineered to give her an advantage beyond the advantages of some wealth and social class standing. Her progressive opponent reminded us in his handout about the circumstances of that race where the previous incumbent had dropped out suddenly and at the last moment such that someone with knowledge of the impending retirement would have a timely organizing advantage.

But in the intervening years things changed. The new Senator represented her district well and kept strong lines of communication open between herself and her progressive constituents. She spoke directly to the issues with skill and knowledge, much of it gained by her experiences in Springfield. I was now completely thrown as to how I would vote.

The progressive opponent spoke next. He was fine but clearly out-classed. Great, what more is there to confuse me?

Well, the statements for and against, of course. Folks who had worked against the incumbent were now praising her. And they were suggesting that her opponent really should be working to get elected for an office where we need a good progressive rather than opposing a decently progressive existing Senator. OK that's it, I thought, I'm abstaining. And I did. Final outcome 23 for the incumbent, 1 against and 5 abstains. It was the best I could do. You dance with them that brung you or you don't dance.

By the way that turnout of nearly 30 out of 85 possible was very impressive. This is one of IVI-IPO's strongest strongholds. If your community is lacking an IVI-IPO presence then I urge you to by all means get one going. The organization has tons of opportunities for improvement but it really does have a lot of experience running this sort of process. You should tap into that experience. They are also open to change at the moment, so there's really little excuse not to avail your community of it.

On my way home I took advantage to look up the old six-flat that I and some buddies owned for about 10 years from 77 to 87. Now condo-ized. I also took a nostalgic swing by progressive icon Studs Terkel's old home on Castlewood Terrace.

So that's my local report. I threw in some global suggestions to make it relevant to all Illinoisans. 

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I went also (0.00 / 0)
and saw both my state rep and her challenger.  In that case, the challenger won the vote, although there weren't enough votes to make it a binding endorsement, so it will go to the Board for ratification.

In the other session I sat in on, John Fritchey was unanimously endorsed for County Board -- his opponent had not bothered to show up.  While it felt weird voting in a block with the 47th Ward Party regulars, in this case we were definitely agreed. I think Fritchey will make a pretty decent county commissioner.

In your report, Jeff, I wondered why you chose not to use the  names of your State Senator and her challenger?  I followed suit for my state rep race, though it would not have been my normal instinct.  


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Senator Heather Steans needs the publicity although it would help Jim Madigan, at least in the future. I'm not expecting this to be a "hot" race so I chose to make my focus IVI-IPO rather than the candidates. If there were a lot of diaries, each focusing on a different endorsement session, then yes I would feel comfortable with listing the names. I would have likely changed the tone to be more reportorial.

It would be nice to have a bunch of diaries on all the sessions, even if only for the back page. But that would be a different PSB at some other time, perhaps. And not just IVI-IPO but even say Randall Sherman's (not "his" but the one he so strongly supports) organization's sessions as well and NDFA too perhaps.

It would be as if PSB were the blog of record for these progressive groups. Again that's not where the blog is at, at the moment. It would presume sufficient readership on the one hand and a mindset within the organizations that here's a job that needs to have folks assigned to carry out, namely writing something up about what happened, even of the simplist reporting style, say minutes of a meeting style, on the other.

Jeff Wegerson


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I write (0.00 / 0)
"minutes" for NDFA and its not a quick job.  It takes me a while to do them, and its usually not done in a blog-timely fashion.

Might be easier to get someone else to do a synopsis.  As I think about it, I guess I've always felt leary of using PSB as a vehicle to consistently promote NDFA -- that's not its purpose.  But I don't know: would doing monthly write-ups on the meetings seem like an act of shameless self-promotion to the detriment of the rest of the community?  


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I used the word simple meaning (0.00 / 0)
style-wise. Of course minute writing is not easy nor quick nor even simple in terms of complexity and structure. As I said in a previous post, when someone is good at what they do they make it look easy or simple. So my bad here. I tossed off minute writing with the word simple without thinking.

We have two areas to post stuff here. The front page and the back page. The back page is great for stuff that someone might think inappropriate for this particular community at this particular moment. One difficulty with monthly writeups is that they are one more job for a volunteer organization that doesn't need more jobs that might not necessarily contribute to the functioning of the organization. However if one were already writing necessary minutes and they wrote then with an eye to publishing parts of them, then there might not be much additional work for that volunteer person.

Hopefully a monthly write-up would be an act of shameless self-promotion. Of course, a major function of the blog is self-promotion. So self-promotion is actually a responsibility rather than a freedom here. Especially as concerns progressive institutions. The detriment is in the not doing it rather than the doing it. It's a detriment to the community that groups like IVI-IPO and NDFA and ICHG don't self-promote here more often.

Jeff Wegerson


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Great write up! (0.00 / 0)
That was a wonderfully candid, interesting and fun write-up about the session. I am thrilled you attended and I was also very happy to see the good turnout for the session.  

And of course I find it very flattering and humbling that you would want to pattern your vote after me! Though I have to admit I often go into endorsement sessions (for both NDFA and IVI-IPO) undecided about who I will support, and end up making my decision based on points and arguments made by other members. I feel for people who don't have that kind of group process to help them consider multiple viewpoints and angles -- and I am thinking specifically of some of the Democratic Committeemen that seem to make their decisions completely on their own.  You really do learn so much by hearing the perspectives of others.

I also really like the rule changes, in particular the straw poll (this was not done in our session because we only had two candidates) and the nominating speeches.  And I think that the candidate speech time was shortened and the question time lengthened, which is great.  Most of the time candidate speeches are like hearing a talking brochure; they really don't get down to the meat of what you will be making your decision on.

Anyway, great write up!

Basic stuff: The common wealth should be used for the common good, not to enrich the well-connected few.  


A Cadidate's View of Endorsement (0.00 / 0)
As the male State Rep Candidate that was mentioned above, I have found the endorsement process both fascinating and helpful. I am one of those grass-root politicians who is brand new to being a politician, unless you count three campaigns where I didn't even make a blip on the charts in Indiana more than 25 years ago.

In this, my almost-virgin campaign, I have been part of four endorsement processes: Northside Democracy for America, IVI-IPO, the PACs and Unions, and the Regular Democrats. It has been an advanced lesson in Chicago politics, one that more voters ought to experience.

The most clamorous process is NDFA, where progressive, ethical, and fiscally-responsible candidates are asked to present themselves. OK, it is exclusionary since you have to have those qualities AND be a Democrat. It also differs from IVI-IPO and the PAC/Union process because it is without questionnaire. That leaves the decision to be based on the literature the candidate presents, the reporting done by Steve, who does a write-up after talking with the candidate, and the candidate's actual presentation. There is then a month's wait to vote. The free-form works well and offers a real challenge because the questions are often very pointed and the rivalry between supporters is both friendly and serious.

For me, just listening has been a learning experience since it gives one the opportunity to hear real answers to the concerns of specific voters. Likewise it gives a chance to hear the fluff, when the candidate delivers it.

IVI-IPO, on the other hand, is long on the questionnaire. Unfortunately they are also very slow in making the completed ones available, so much so that my opponent's answers were only available on the website at 10 pm the night before (when mine was up there too). The difficulty here is understandable since volunteers have too much to do. My questionnaire had sat with them for a long time. I heard that my opponent's had only been received the night before, in spite of stern warnings that if you missed the deadline (she had) there was no forgiveness.

Since there were only three voters from my district (myself, my partner, and another resident/activist) the chair appointed a few others to vote as well, a process that could be fraught with the smell of machine politics, but since I won the vote, I won't complain.

I liked the short intro and short after-word, since I enjoy answering questions. For my part, I found the questions really well thought and a bit challenging, which I think is important. Unlike at NDFA I wasn't allowed to hear my opponent. That speechifying was followed by discussion without the presence of the candidates and I hear it was lively and interesting, though it turns out one-sided since the non-binding vote was 5 to 1. I am now awaiting the certification by the State Board, since less than 15 votes were cast. The nearly two-week wait is way too long, but again you are relying on the "kindness of volunteers" to paraphrase Blanche DuBois.

I had always wondered how the IVI-IPO endorsements were made and to finally find out was a good thing. It is unfortunate, though, that it doesn't include hundreds more voters, such being the sad state of (non) participatory democracy in America today.

The third group, PACs and Unions, to which I might add Editors, seems mostly to be about paper. It is also a process that begins too late in the primary election cycle to make much difference, as they say they are waiting for the petitions to be certified. Really, then why were the candidates for governor and other high-ranking officials endorsed so much sooner? It's also obvious that PAC and Union money is saved for the perceived-to-be winners. Disclosure here: that became clear when I read the book "Reforming State Legislative Elections" by William M. Salka.

I know, I know. It's called betting on a sure thing. I see that merely as a great way to preserve's one's ability to influence AND to preserve the status quo. That, I think, is the big difference, as NDFA and IVI-IPO seem to care less about the status quo and more about good government or at least their brand of it. And yes, I am prejudiced here, since even the unions that would seem to have been naturals to endorse me decided (so far at least) to endorse no one.

And then there are the regular Democrats. Twice I tried to meet my Ward 39 committeeman and twice I was unable to get an appointment. The third time I went and sat in the reception area of his office for two-and-a-half hours, having been told my name was on the list and he would see me. Closing time for the office is posted for 9 pm. At 8:30, when my turn came, I was told that Mr. Committeeman was leaving and couldn't see me. The party looks out for its own, especially when its own are in-laws, children, cousins, or big contributors.

Now I will give up my rant if someone tells me that the Committeeman has no responsibility to see that his/her Ward elects the best candidate as determined by open debate among competing and competent candidates. Never mind, I'll win the really old-fashioned way, by knocking on doors and gaining support of the voters one hand-shake at a time.

As my friend Chuck me told at the very beginning of this run "You cannot fail." This education has been priceless and even if I don't win, has prepared me well for the next time when I just might run against the Committeeman.

Democratic Candidate for State Rep, Dist 40


This would be a great diary post (0.00 / 0)
And even were it not from a candidate it would get front paged.

Please re-post this as a diary-post. If you are of a mind.

Jeff Wegerson


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I appreciate the compliment. Thanks for writing it

Joe Laiacona
Progressive Democrat for State Rep, Dist 40

Democratic Candidate for State Rep, Dist 40


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