Participatory Budgeting Comes to Chicago's 49th Ward

by: wegerje

Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 15:31:07 PM CST


Incumbent Chicago Alderman Joe Moore almost lost his last election. It was likely a huge wake up call. Afterwards he replaced some key people in his organization. In a sign that he is neither backing off of his progressive positions nor is he ignoring his near loss, he is bringing a populist and radical democratic process to his one million dollar menu budget called "Participatory Budgeting."

Already the process has engaged the so-called "Peoples Republic of Rogers Park" in six of eight planned initial neighborhood assemblies. From these assemblies representatives are being elected. These representatives will meet and hone the brain-stormed ideas from the assemblies and if necessary call additional assemblies for further refinement. The process will culminate in the spring with a ward-wide assembly meeting to make the final decisions for the 2010 menu money.

To see where the money can be spent and where it cannot be spent, as well as where previous year's spending went see that web link you just passed. One of my first reactions is that they should have some kind of page recording the process as it goes along. Well they are doing that right here.

Even though I'm in the next ward south (48), the 49th ward does touch my precinct so it's my plan to go tomorrow night and report back here.  I actually have concerns about what happens in my neighborhood that straddles the two wards. The 48th ward has actually had  a pretty good process used by the alderman, Mary Ann Smith, to manage where money goes. She has representatives of various ward organizations, block clubs and the Chamber of Commerce meet regularly to discuss and vote on various issues within the ward. But her process still contains elements that lack transparency.

Democracy is hard and Joe is likely in for quite a ride. But if he is able to stick to it I predict that his next election will be nowhere near as close as his last.

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Hats Off to Alderman Moore (3.00 / 1)
This is a delightfully democratic and participatory project. I hope it serves as a pilot for other Wards to emulate.

That is, of course... (0.00 / 0)
...if you can believe a word out of Lying Joe's mouth, after 18+ years of virtual non-stop conning the residents of his ward!  

I'm sorry Suzanne, but I've seen this con act by Moore in the past.  I'm not about to believe that he is either willing or capable of shedding his image as the biggest hypocrite in the Chicago City Council.  


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If you are right then (4.00 / 1)
he will be blown out of the water come next election. The level of expectations directly generated by this process, which is well under way with six of eight planned meetings already, those expectations if not met in a transparent way will sink any reelection chances he has.

On the other hand, if you are wrong, which is to say that this process is a success then this process has the potential to bring a lot of people into the political process and bring them in with a stake in seeing Joe get reelected.

Jeff Wegerson


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Ok, how about this... (0.00 / 0)
I don't think there's much point in predicting failure when success is a possibility, however remote you might believe it to be. So, let's agree that you'll be the cynic here and I'll take the positive side of the bet. Whoever looses has to buy the other a sheet of some nicely marked, current commemoratives. I'll save mine if I win (I told you I wasn't a serious philatelist) and if you win, you can send Joe 20 postcards detailing your disappointment on my dime ;-)


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A Delicious Heaping of Crow (0.00 / 0)
Oh, this looks like a fun game! How about if the loser has to send a handwritten letter to the winner, apologizing for either overestimating or underestimating (as the case may be) Joe's election-worthiness?

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You're in that ward, yes? (3.00 / 1)
If you could forget your feelings about Joe for the moment, have you checked out the proposal/process yet and if so do you have a take on it? I mean like suppose some other alderman were proposing it? What then?

Just curious.

Jeff Wegerson


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Crow? (0.00 / 0)
Why? This isn't a zero-sum game. Whether the process is successful or not, Joe's put some capital and some cred on the line to try it. It is for taking this risk, as much as for the program itself, that I happily give Joe credit and, for the same reason, rib Randall whose contempt for Joe sometimes colors his otherwise unmatchable knowledge about Chicago and state politics.  

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I'm not sure what that is... (0.00 / 0)
The 48th ward has actually had  a pretty good process used by the alderman, Mary Ann Smith, to manage where money goes. She has representatives of various ward organizations, block clubs and the Chamber of Commerce meet regularly to discuss and vote on various issues within the ward. But her process still contains elements that lack transparency.

Admittedly, my only experience with the process was belonging to Mary Ann's Zoning and Planning Committee for about a year during the whole 5440 Sheridan fiasco, but, that Z&P committee is full of groups that seem to only exist to provide places for friendly votes on Z&P.  When the neighbors around 5440 rose up in arms and collected over a thousand signatures against the plan (real participation) , they were trumped by a handful of real estate salesmen, supposed tradesman organizations, and the developers who gave Mary Ann several thousand dollars.  In my experience, some of the block clubs are real, but more survive only to provide rubber-stamp OKs for projects the Alderman has already approved.  It would be great if 48 started participatory budgeting, but, I'm not sure that it would be run any better than Z&P.  


PB would not have affected the 5440 (0.00 / 0)
dispute as that was, I assume, a zoning rather than a menu money spending issue. PB like P&Z is officially an advisory process for the alderman. Nothing either process does is binding on the alderman. So yes similar process issues that surround P&Z will likely evolve around PB for Joe. Mainly that people with very strong interest and available time will likely come to be the major participants in the process.

That said, Mary Ann's process is an order of magnitude better (more democratic) than say O'Connor's process. Further MAS has set the bar for the next alderman. Should they try to function with less democracy then they will likely be strongly opposed in their next run for the office.

Depending upon the robustness of the democratic process that Joe implements, his process could potentially be an order of magnitude better than Smith's.

Jeff Wegerson


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My point is/was that anything to promote a truly... (0.00 / 0)
democratic process is a good one, but, the one input one I've seen here wasn't so small 'd' democratic.

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I'm not following your line of thought here. (0.00 / 0)
What "one input" and where is "here"?

Jeff Wegerson

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Rather than discuss this academically with you, please... (0.00 / 0)
lobby MAS, or your block club to lobby MAS, to start Participatory Budgeting and if you're successful,  I'll say I was wrong about how things are done here (48th Ward).

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I assumed that I would be doing all those lobbyings (0.00 / 0)
I expect that MAS will wait to see how it goes with Joe. In some ways this process relieves the alderman of a big headache, which is dealing with the folks that don't know all that goes into a menu money decision and then aren't happy with whatever the decision was. Of course, that assumes that the alderman's goal is serving their constituents rather than any personal power goals.

But ok that's another academic discussion. Or I guess it might be called a blog discussion since this is not an academy. Anyway, lets do both. Lets you and I have a blog (academic) discussion and have me lobby. Indeed I'll bring up PB at the next board meeting (this Monday) of the Edgewater Glen Association where I am a very long serving board member.

Jeff Wegerson


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Freaking awesome. (0.00 / 0)
Not being from Chicago, I don't know much about Moore, but I'd like to see this happen elsewhere.  

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